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Product Info for Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's
The latest update to our high-cushion neutral trainer, the Phantom 4, delivers an even more cushioned, responsive, and comfortable ride. The all-new upper, midsole, and outsole design gives the shoe a sleek, dynamic look. Topo Athletic's increased the stack height by 2mm, now offering a 35-30mm platform, providing extra cushion. The ZipFoam compound is lighter, softer, and more responsive than ever. The Topo Athletic Phantom 4 is perfect for daily miles, running, walking, and all-day wear. You and the Phantom 4 are the perfect match. Together we are unstoppable!![]()
Specifications for Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's:
| Manufacturer: | Topo Athletic |
| Gender: | Female |
| Age Group: | Adults |
| Heel Height: | 35 mm |
| Boot Style: | Road Running Shoes |
| Footwear Type: | Shoes |
| Activity: | Everyday, Running |
| Activity/Occasion: | Daily Activity |
| Insole Material: | Ortholite |
| Seasonal/Temperature Use: | Winter |
| Weight: | 7.6 oz |
| Footwear Upper Fabric/Material: | Mesh |
| Outsole Material: | Rubber |
| Midsole Material: | Zipfoam |
| Stack Height: | 30mm |
Features of Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's
- The highest available drop allows you to access natural running with more under-heel cushioning
- Comfortable insoles with long-term resilience and anti-microbial properties
- Anatomical toe box allows toes to spread naturally and comfortably
- Proprietary midsole compound which is springier than EVA and offers more rebound over the life of the shoe
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- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's
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Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's Orderable Models
List of Orderable Models
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 6.0 US, W087-060-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-060-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806123 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-060-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 6.5 US, W087-065-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-065-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806130 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-065-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 7.0 US, W087-070-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-070-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806147 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-070-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 7.5 US, W087-075-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-075-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806154 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-075-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 8.0 US, W087-080-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-080-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806161 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-080-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 8.5 US, W087-085-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-085-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806178 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-085-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 9.0 US, W087-090-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-090-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806185 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-090-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 9.5 US, W087-095-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-095-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806192 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-095-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 10.0 US, W087-100-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-100-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806208 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-100-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 6.0 US, W087-060-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-060-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806000 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-060-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 6.5 US, W087-065-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-065-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806017 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-065-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 7.0 US, W087-070-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-070-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806024 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-070-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 7.5 US, W087-075-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-075-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806031 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-075-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 8.0 US, W087-080-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-080-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806048 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-080-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 8.5 US, W087-085-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-085-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806055 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-085-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 9.0 US, W087-090-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-090-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806062 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-090-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 9.5 US, W087-095-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-095-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806079 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-095-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 10.0 US, W087-100-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-100-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806086 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-100-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 10.5 US, W087-105-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-105-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806093 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-105-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 11.0 US, W087-110-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-110-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806109 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-110-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Black/White, 12.0 US, W087-120-BLKWHT , MPN: W087-120-BLKWHT , UPC: 810171806116 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-120-BLKWHT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 6.0 US/Wide, W087-060W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-060W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806246 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-060W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 6.5 US/Wide, W087-065W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-065W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806253 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-065W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 7.0 US/Wide, W087-070W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-070W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806260 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-070W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 7.5 US/Wide, W087-075W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-075W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806277 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-075W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 8.0 US/Wide, W087-080W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-080W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806284 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-080W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 8.5 US/Wide, W087-085W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-085W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806291 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-085W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 9.0 US/Wide, W087-090W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-090W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806307 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-090W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 9.5 US/Wide, W087-095W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-095W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806314 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-095W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 10.0 US/Wide, W087-100W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-100W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806321 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-100W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 10.5 US, W087-105-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-105-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806215 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-105-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 10.5 US/Wide, W087-105W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-105W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806338 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-105W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 11.0 US/Wide, W087-110W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-110W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806345 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-110W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 12.0 US, W087-120-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-120-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806239 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-120-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 12.0 US/Wide, W087-120W-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-120W-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806352 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-120W-GRYGRY
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 6.0 US, W087-060-PURBLU , MPN: W087-060-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806369 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-060-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 6.0 US/Wide, W087-060W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-060W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806482 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-060W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 6.5 US, W087-065-PURBLU , MPN: W087-065-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806376 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-065-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 6.5 US/Wide, W087-065W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-065W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806499 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-065W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 7.0 US, W087-070-PURBLU , MPN: W087-070-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806383 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-070-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 7.0 US/Wide, W087-070W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-070W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806505 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-070W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 7.5 US, W087-075-PURBLU , MPN: W087-075-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806390 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-075-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 7.5 US/Wide, W087-075W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-075W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806512 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-075W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 8.0 US, W087-080-PURBLU , MPN: W087-080-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806406 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-080-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 8.0 US/Wide, W087-080W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-080W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806529 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-080W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 8.5 US, W087-085-PURBLU , MPN: W087-085-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806413 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-085-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 8.5 US/Wide, W087-085W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-085W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806536 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-085W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 9.0 US, W087-090-PURBLU , MPN: W087-090-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806420 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-090-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 9.0 US/Wide, W087-090W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-090W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806543 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-090W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 9.5 US, W087-095-PURBLU , MPN: W087-095-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806437 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-095-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 9.5 US/Wide, W087-095W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-095W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806550 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-095W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 10.0 US, W087-100-PURBLU , MPN: W087-100-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806444 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-100-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 10.0 US/Wide, W087-100W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-100W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806567 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-100W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 10.5 US, W087-105-PURBLU , MPN: W087-105-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806451 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-105-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 10.5 US/Wide, W087-105W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-105W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806574 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-105W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 11.0 US, W087-110-PURBLU , MPN: W087-110-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806468 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-110-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 11.0 US/Wide, W087-110W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-110W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806581 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-110W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 12.0 US, W087-120-PURBLU , MPN: W087-120-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806475 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-120-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Purple/Blue, 12.0 US/Wide, W087-120W-PURBLU , MPN: W087-120W-PURBLU , UPC: 810171806598 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-120W-PURBLU
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Grey/Grey, 11.0 US, W087-110-GRYGRY , MPN: W087-110-GRYGRY , UPC: 810171806222 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-110-GRYGRY
Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's Unavailable & Discontinued Models
List of Unorderable Models
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 6.0 US, W087-060-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-060-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806604 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-060-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 6.5 US, W087-065-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-065-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806611 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-065-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 7.0 US, W087-070-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-070-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806628 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-070-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 7.5 US, W087-075-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-075-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806635 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-075-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 8.0 US, W087-080-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-080-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806642 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-080-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 8.5 US, W087-085-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-085-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806659 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-085-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 9.0 US, W087-090-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-090-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806666 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-090-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 9.5 US, W087-095-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-095-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806673 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-095-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 10.0 US, W087-100-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-100-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806680 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-100-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 10.5 US, W087-105-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-105-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806697 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-105-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 11.0 US, W087-110-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-110-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806703 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-110-SLTNAT
- Topo Athletic Phantom 4 Road Running Shoes - Women's, Salt/Natural, 12.0 US, W087-120-SLTNAT , MPN: W087-120-SLTNAT , UPC: 810171806710 , Code: 2T9-WF1-TA02WS-W087-120-SLTNAT
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