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I wanted to love these pants, but the size chart is just wrong. With my 29 inch waist and 39 inch hips, according the the size chart, I should be a solid size 8-10. However, I've tried the 8, 6, and 4, and all of them are HUGE on me and would not stay on my hips even with the drawstring tight. I will never buy Marmot bottoms again if we're expected to order according to bogus vanity sizing. This was the most absurd pants-buying experience I've ever had.
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