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I have tested these pants out on some 14ers in colorado this winter, and with decent fleece pants as a baselayer, they stood up to some gnarly weather. Breathes excellent. Got them after my climbing partner had them last season. Would recommend them to anyone who is into alpine style climbing. I have a muscular build (200 lbs 5'10) and in order to be able to wear full insulated pants, i had to get an XL. If I was just going to stay in Colorado, I would have gone with a L since a small baselayer would fit nicely beneath. However, these pants do have a snug fit.