These a great pants that excel in winter snowsports. The quality is what you would expect from Marmot at this price range. The block wind, water and cold while maintaining breathability. However, if you are a short person do not purchase these pants. I measured the inseam of the pair I received (size small) at 37 inches. WAY TOO LONG to be comfortable
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