My usual shoes for sport are 5.10 arrowhead. Still have some Anasazi verde for trad. Tried these as my next trad all day shoe. As soon as I tried them on, I could tell the rubber section across the top of the toe area would dig into my foot if smearing on less than vertical sections. Maybe they would break in over time, but I didn't feel like dealing with it. Sent them back. They seem to work great for others, but not for me.
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